Teen Gothic

(Baby bat here) (I would even say a newborn baby bat)

I'm already a metalhead. I enjoy trash, groove, gothic, occult, doom, alternative, etc. On the rock scene, I like hard rock, psychedelic, blues, stoner and more. I have searched, and it appears that gothic metal, symphonic metal and occult rock aren't in the gothic subculture. I have been more interested in the goth scene because of aesthetics, books and movies, but of course, I also like the music. Until now, what I genuinely appreciated in goth music was post-punk. I really didn't like dark or cold waves. Likewise, am I goth, even just liking post-punk?

Edit: of all subreddits that I go to, the r/goth are the one were have the most kind ones!

I’ve always been obsessed/intrigued/interested by goth music and fashion but never knew when I’d actually get into it. But now I am! Now that I am, I want to now what are the best brands to buy clothes from? And what are some bands to listen to? (Currently listening to inkubus sukkubus, acid bath, and Bauhaus) Im also on the east coast of the us so I’d need help finding clothes that I’d be able to wear in the cold and not freeze my ass off

Baby bat here and I was abruptly reminded of an infamous webtoon comic that was literally named Goth. They look like what you would get if you combined e-boy, punk, emo, and all sorts of “edgy” styles together into one unholy mess. Also turns out, the author says the “goth” character is their self-insert. And then proceeds to post photos of them in the most un-goth fashion style. I know goth isn’t about the way you dress but the way that person presented themselves was a complete misrepresentation of what goths actually are.

This kind of misrepresentation just makes me really frustrated because it erases the music part of what it means to be goth and waters it down to just wearing black and edgy things. Things like these also frustrate me a lot because music is extremely important to me because it is a powerful method of communicating and expressing emotions. Music is something very rich in expression and it pains me to see people remove goth music, the very thing that goth subculture is built upon, and replace it with this strange version of “goth” that is being presented.

Please don’t send hate to them if you know who they are. This is just a rant to blow off steam. I just think that goth music is beautiful and great and all I want is for other people to see that and appreciate it as well.

The title says it all, but to be more specific, I'm looking for more music with more mysticism in their lyrics and a sound that's a lot fuller.

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Bear with me as I'm a babybat. Around the late 1980's and early 1990's, movies such as the Lost Boys, the Craft, the Crow, Interview with a Vampire, etc. were sensationalizing the goth scene, and I think this really gave them a brief period of significant presence within popular culture. I think the Goths of the 90's were a really pivotal point for the scene's history.

Then around the early 2000's we started seeing this "goth" or "gothic" stock characters appearing in media, which more or less still exists in the 2020's, with each incarnation of this stock having lesser and lesser resemblance to its roots.

I cannot really remember a movie in recent time that's meant to resonate with our scene. There was that one movie (name I forgot) where a man becomes a popular Goth singer, and then moves to Europe because his father might have been a nazi or something, but I think that film was trying to more or less mock the subculture because the protagonist "sheds" their Goth-ness by the end.